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Michael Dennis

Alex,

You get at the most important point in the Bucky bit; history and memory is about forgetting things as much as remembering things. Writing of print's power Robert Hooke wrote of the wealth of the man who had committed everything to print. But it was Nietzsche (spelling) who understood the centrality of forgetting--that's a major theme of the use and abuse of history. And a text you might want to look at. Let's face it; who would want a record of all our conversations? What an awful idea! Aren't there always some things you want to forget, to go away? And the joke is that the really painful things are always with us, just beneath the scabs and detours that memory provides. Haven't you noticed that you often move full circle in understanding a problem? I fear that if I had a perfect record of the past it would do more than inhibit the future, it would be the future. That's my fear of having a blog, that I would comment on things and have that record to reread. Sometimes you just have to jump into the text and write to the end. You wind up making a future that is all the more unpredictable. But I wander.

And as an aside, is the future where displays are simply fixtures one in which hand gestures lose their emotional value and valences?

Michael

askpang

Hey, you're the first comment! Way to go, Michael.

The idea of what to do with a lifetime of data has been running around my mind ever since I read about the personal server concept. The more I think about it, the more complex the sociology around it gets. Who inherits your data when you die? Arguably there will be nothing more personal, nothing more revealing about you, than this vast storehouse of data. Do you preserve it? Do the children fight over it? Should it be burned on a pyre?

This may sound like an odd question, but I think it's actually not a bad thought experiment.

Don Kirby

This brings a whole new meaning to Identity Theft. It's one thing to have your credit card number stolen, or worse, your social security number, but can you imagine having everything stolen? Everything, with a capital 'EVERY'. That would be embarassing at the least, and catastrpohic at the worst. Even considering the fact that you could possibly make the data virtually unusable for anyone but yourself, just the thought of someone else walking around with your life in their pocket is more than a little disturbing.

Once that issue is either solved or ignored (whichever is your personal preference), how would one actually get our 'Life Story' into the device? It's one thing to record your child's first steps, words, and a few birthdays, but recording video manually thoughout your entire life would be a severely limiting task. Perhaps, the device would access any available recording device withing range and use it automatically. The security camera at the local Wal-Mart would record you shopping for new underwear, for example.

Technical issues aside, the data would portray quite a unique picture about us when we die. Orson Scott Card wrote a book called Speaker for the Dead, in which the lead character travels the galaxy 'Speaking' people's deaths. He would bring to public knowledge, all of the deceased persons motivations and experiences, including all of the things that that person would never have admitted to anyone while alive. The personal server would (could) do the same thing. Revealing who a particular person really was as oppsed to who they wanted everyone to believe they were. We have to remember that we rarely show our true selves to anyone except our most trusted (usually a spouse). Offering this information to everyone else would require a drastic change in how we, as a people, interact.

The sticky details are endless. Can the courts subpeona the data for use in prosecuting you in the event of a trial? The device would make a perfect eye-witness to everything you've (we've) ever done. Although I would imagine that no self-respecting theif would own one, most executives would, and it would be recording all of their insider trading acivities.

Obviously, we wouldn't want it running all the time. There are things that just shouldn't be remembered, let alone recorded. This shifts the gears significantly. If we are to be selective about what it records and what it ignores, then all of the above it moot. This is, I think, the only way we could possibly impliment such a device. We create a set of rules for the device to follow regarding what and when to record. E-mails are always saved, while you sitting in front of the TV watching a football game would be ignored.

I have to admit, it would be nice to have a personal 'Instant-Replay' of certain events in my life. It would bring new meaning to the ineveitable 'I guess you had to be there' idiom, I just don't know if it would be worth the possible trouble it could cause.

Toby Heppell

I think that everyone seems to be missing an extremely important point about personal servers. This is ,I feel the effect that they would have on education is it not obvious that if we were able to record all our memories then all our classes as a child would be stored. With this in mind how useful would exam results be. As young children many of our exams are largely memory based (you are told something and if you recite that something in an exam word for word you pass) so surely this would lead to all children passing all exams. It is possible to think that they would be banned in exams and they probably would but only for a while. With them becoming such an important part of our lives it is foolish to think that they would be banned for long. I am aware that not all exams in our life are based entirely on memory but I believe that you could pass a degree as an undergraduate by memory alone. So then to take these ideas to an extreme how would an employer decide who to choose for a job, with most candidates having the same qualification and access to a perfectly preserved database of everything that they have ever been taught how can they justify a choice of one over another. I am aware that many people have what we call natural talent in certain fields but a lot of that can be attributed to a thirst for knowledge of a given subject. It would be easy to skim read around a subject and 'save' an entire text to our personal servers for later use this would surely make most people of equal intellect. An interesting point that follows from this is how could anybody then justify large salery differences. Now this is where it gets interesting if a government decided to give basic intelectual memory downloads to people in education (I am aware that we would still have to read or watch these downloads but I am working on the asumption that they are there for all of us to use if and when we want and also the asumption that we would all use them) then how can anyone justify earning more than anyone else is it not possible that a dustman could have the same stored intellect as a bank manager or lawyer the same as a cleaner etc. Surely then the only way to make the system fair woul be state pay for all jobs no matter how big or small!!!! (these are just thoughts around the subject that bring up interesting ideas and by no means indicate the authors political persuasions.)

Toby Heppell

I think that everyone seems to be missing an extremely important point about personal servers. This is ,I feel the effect that they would have on education is it not obvious that if we were able to record all our memories then all our classes as a child would be stored. With this in mind how useful would exam results be. As young children many of our exams are largely memory based (you are told something and if you recite that something in an exam word for word you pass) so surely this would lead to all children passing all exams. It is possible to think that they would be banned in exams and they probably would but only for a while. With them becoming such an important part of our lives it is foolish to think that they would be banned for long. I am aware that not all exams in our life are based entirely on memory but I believe that you could pass a degree as an undergraduate by memory alone. So then to take these ideas to an extreme how would an employer decide who to choose for a job, with most candidates having the same qualification and access to a perfectly preserved database of everything that they have ever been taught how can they justify a choice of one over another. I am aware that many people have what we call natural talent in certain fields but a lot of that can be attributed to a thirst for knowledge of a given subject. It would be easy to skim read around a subject and 'save' an entire text to our personal servers for later use this would surely make most people of equal intellect. An interesting point that follows from this is how could anybody then justify large salery differences. Now this is where it gets interesting if a government decided to give basic intelectual memory downloads to people in education (I am aware that we would still have to read or watch these downloads but I am working on the asumption that they are there for all of us to use if and when we want and also the asumption that we would all use them) then how can anyone justify earning more than anyone else is it not possible that a dustman could have the same stored intellect as a bank manager or lawyer the same as a cleaner etc. Surely then the only way to make the system fair woul be state pay for all jobs no matter how big or small!!!! (these are just thoughts around the subject that bring up interesting ideas and by no means indicate the authors political persuasions.)

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